05-19-2005 (Citizens Bond Committee) Agenda Packet NOTICE OF MEETING
WYLIE CITIZEN BOND ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
Special Called Meeting
Thursday, May 19, 2005
7:30 p.m.
Wylie Municipal Complex—Council Chambers/Council Conference Room
2000 State Highway 78 North
Wylie,Texas 75098
CALL TO ORDER ., .
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DISCUSSION ITEMS s fi
1. Approval of the Minutes of May 12, 2005 (B. Brooks,Executive Assistant)
2. City's Ability to Borrow and Bond Coverage Generated by New Growth (D. Medanich,
Financial Advisor, First Southwest Company)
3. Fire Department's Capital Improvement Project List (S. English, Fire Chief)
4. Public Services Department Capital Improvement Project List (M. Sferra, Public Services
Director)
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MINUTES
Wylie Citizen Bond Advisory Committee
Thursday,May 19,2005—7:30 p.m.
Wylie Municipal Complex—Council Chambers
2000 State Highway 78 North
CALL TO ORDER
Committee Chairman Jay Whitlow called the meeting to order at 7:31 p.m. with the following
Committee Members present: Daniel Chestnut, Doris Craighead, Jay Cummings, Jamie Gregg, Jim
Griffin, Linda Jourdan, Chuck Kerin, Dennis Larson, Grace Morrison, Mike Phillips, Chris Seely, and
Jeri Smith.Members absent were: Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller and Janet Johnston.
Staff Present were: City Manager, Mark Roath; Fire Chief, Shan English; Public Services Director,
Mike Sferra; Finance Director, Larry Williamson; Public Information Officer, Mark Witter; and
Executive Assistant,Brandy Brooks.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1.Approval of the Minutes of May 12,2005
Chairman Jay Whitlow asked if there were changes that needed to be made to the minutes. The
Committee Members voted 12 -FOR and 0 -AGAINST in favor of approval.
Chairman Whitlow advised the Committee members that this meeting would be the last containing
formal presentations from groups from the City; therefore the next meeting, the Committee will begin to
take everything presented and start formalizing a recommendation to the Council.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
With no one addressing the Committee, Chairman Whitlow proceeded to Discussion Item 2.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
2. City's Ability to Borrow and Bond Coverage Generated by New Growth
David Medanich and Nick Bulaish,representatives from First Southwest,presented the Committee with
information relating to Bond Issuance and current City funding capacity.
He first went over the Bond Issuance Process, by explaining that there are two different options for
selling bonds for the purposes of capital improvements. One option is Certificates of Obligation, which
do not require an election,are tax supported,and have a revenue pledge on the water and sewer systems.
The process for Certificates of Obligation involves placing a notice in the paper on the same day two
consecutive weeks that states the amount to be sold, a general description of projects included, and the
date that the Certificates of Obligation will be sold. It is an easy process, and can be completed in
approximately 4 months. Another option is issuing General Obligation Bonds, which requires an
election. He explained that the market views both ways of financing equal, as both have a tax obligation
attached to them. While 4B funds were recently used to issue Certificates of Obligation, there are
currently very few funds available, so the Committee should be looking at either Certificates of
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Obligation or General Obligation Bonds. Larry Williamson agreed that 4B revenues would not offer
much funding capacity.
Mr. Medanich then explained that the funds available for projects were based on a conservative growth
rate, with 10% in 2006, and 8% for each year thereafter. Mr. Bulaish informed the Committee that
without a tax rate increase, selling bonds over a 3-year span,that is,in 2006,2008 and 2010,the amount
would be approximately$12.4 million. Mr. Medanich explained that if growth was to expand to 20% in
2006 and 15-17% each year thereafter, the amount would increase to almost $28 million. He explained
that $50 million would translate to a tax rate increase of 8-100, $75 million would mean a 150 increase
and$100 million would represent a 300 tax rate increase, assuming the 3-year span.
Mr. Medanich explained that once the projects to be included on the bond are identified, a better
estimate of costs could be given. He stated that issuing all the funds in one year would mean a
substantially smaller package than issuing bonds over time.He informed the Committee that phasing the
selling of bonds could dramatically change the tax rate, because they are ultimately dependant on the
growth of the tax base, or rooftops. Mr. Chestnut asked what the tax increase would be on $75 million,
and Mr. Bulaish stated that it would be approximately 25-260,based on the conservative growth rate.
(Mr. Roath introduced the Finance Director, Larry Williamson, to the Committee, so they would
recognize him when Mr.Medanich referred to him.)
Mr. Chestnut asked if spreading the amounts out over several years would lessen the tax. Mr. Medanich
explained that if the City sells all the bonds in one year, the tax rate would increase substantially,
because the City isn't able to take advantage of growth in the tax base. As growth increases, then the
rate will slowly be able to fall. If the City phases the selling of bonds, it can increase its rooftops, and
the tax rate will not be impacted as much. The City can increase marginally, and as growth increases, it
won't have to increase the tax rate as substantially. He explained that with a more formal list of what the
timeline of the projects will be,the more accurate numbers he will be able to provide.
Mr. Roath inquired about the life span of the bonds. Mr. Medanich explained that legally, bonds can
have a life of 40 years, but cities normally set a life of 20-25 years. He stated that bonds are similar to
home mortgages, in that the City gets more money for a 25 year bond than it does with a 20 year bond,
but the interest rate is a bit higher. Principle on debt is paid each year, so even if the projects included in
the bond package have a useful life of less that the 20-25 years, the principle paid in the first few years
can be justified as paying for those projects.He also explained that anything shorter than 20 years would
greatly impact the tax rate, and the number of projects would greatly decrease, but there might be a
lower interest rate. Mr. Larson asked about the current municipal interest rates. Mr. Medanich stated
that 20 year debt currently has an interest rate of 4.5%, a 25 year is 4.6% and a 15 year may be around
4%; however, if you calculate a present value on each, they all equal about the same. He explained that
a 20- or 25-year debt will have lower annual payments. He stated that with the number of projects the
Committee is looking at doing,he would suggest 20-25 year debt.
Mr. Williamson asked Mr. Medanich to explain the Call Provision in bonds. Mr. Medanich stated that
within the sale of bonds, there is a Call Provision that allows the City to re-fund or refinance the bonds,
if the interest rate is lower. He also explained there is an Advance Re-funding option that can be done
after two or three years, if the rates are low enough to warrant it. Mr. Larson asked if we were likely to
see lower interest rates in 10 years. Mr. Medanich explained that on the Yield Curve, the first year's
interest rate may be 1.5%, and at 25 years, it will be around 5%; after 10 years, the bonds are left
outstanding and each maturity will have a different rate attached to it. Therefore, if may be cost
effective to re-fund the bonds if the higher interest rate bonds are still outstanding.
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Mr. Roath asked Mr. Medanich to explain, from a cost standpoint, the difference between holding one
Bond Election every few years, and holding one Bond Election and phasing the sale of bonds. Mr.
Medanich stated that the amount of time and work dedicated by Staff and Committee members is a good
example. Also, elections are expensive,and if the City has a plan developed to provide for the next three
to five years, it can issue the bonds and begin the projects within the guidelines of the tax rate. He
informed the Committee that even though the voters authorize sale of bonds, the City doesn't have to
sell them,just that they are authorized to do so.Therefore,if the growth increases, some projects may be
accelerated based on need; if growth slows, some projects may be pushed out. Phasing the sale of bonds
is very beneficial, because it is extremely difficult to only plan one year out, and the time and money
spent on the Election process is not fiscally responsible for the taxpayers.
Mr. Phillips asked if there were any bonds remaining from the 1999 Election, and Mr. Roath informed
the Committee that the last of the funding was just sold this year.
Ms. Morrison inquired about tying amounts to specific projects. Mr. Medanich explained that only
certain items can be combined within propositions. However, the projects covered under the amounts
are left as broad as possible to allow for re-distribution of funds. For example, if the City specifies that
Street A will cost $500,000 to build, and the project is finished at $250,000, the City cannot re-allocate
those funds to another project.Mr. Medanich also explained that his understanding of the law relating to
facilities is that if the facilities are attached, they can appear in the same proposition; however, if the
facilities are not attached, they must be voted on separately. He informed the Committee that once
projects were defined,the Bond Counsel would assist them with what projects could be combined under
the same proposition. The Counsel will prepare all the legal documents and they will be sent to the
Attorney General for approval.
Mr. Cummings asked if there were any bonds prior to 1999 that are about to expire. Mr. Williamson
stated that there is a 1988 issue that is about to be paid off, but it is not very much. Mr. Bulaish
explained that there are tax notes scheduled to pay off in 2007,but they also do not amount to much.
Mr. Chestnut asked about putting all the facilities together as one proposition. Mr. Medanich stated that
his belief is, to the extent that the Committee can combine projects under one proposition, it should do
so; however, the law only allows the combining of certain projects, such as streets and drainage, police
and fire,and facilities if they are connected.
Mr. Williamson inquired about the language difference between a General Obligation Bond and a
Certificate of Obligation Mr. Medanich explained that there is very specific language that goes in a
proposition; whereas a Certificate of Obligation is broader and multiple facilities can be combined.
Mr. Phillips asked about the City's Bond Indebtedness and if any portion is paid by impact fees. Mr.
Williamson stated that, excluding self supporting debt, the City's outstanding General Obligation Bond
debt is $23 million. Mr. Bulaish concurred that the figure is $23-24 million, and $28 million is
outstanding when self supporting debt is included. Mr. Medanich explained that debt is paid out of
water, sewer and sales tax revenues,but impact fees are not used for that purpose.
Mr. Griffin expressed the necessity of presenting the information to the voters as what the City needs
versus what the City wants. Mr. Medanich informed the Committee that there will be specific purposes
outlined for debt issuance. He stated that the reason many Bond Elections fail is that the average citizen
doesn't care what the tax rate is,just how it will affect him or her. Mr. Larson asked what impact a tax
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rate increase will have on yearly tax rates. Mr. Williamson explained that a 250 tax increase will
increase property taxes by$250 yearly for a$100,000 home.
Mr. Kerin asked about how to decide on a General Obligation Bond versus a Certificate of Obligation.
Mr. Medanich told the Committee that if the City utilizes a General Obligation Bond Election to
authorize $100 million, it can sell that amount over whatever time period it chooses. With a Certificate
of Obligation, the City must give notice on exactly the amount it will sell and the specific date the
Certificates will be sold.
Mr. Larson inquired about phasing and how it might affect the tax increase. Mr. Medanich stated that
with phasing, the tax rate might not increase as substantially, because the City can take advantage of
growth rate. He stated that sometimes, cities prefer to set their tax rate where it will ultimately climb to
and leave it there until debt is such that the rate can be lowered, or they slowly grow the rate to its
highest point and level off.He said the goal is to avoid peaks and valleys in the tax rate.Mr.Williamson
asked about the tax rates for debt for other cities around the Metroplex. Mr. Medanich informed the
Committee that Wylie's tax rate for debt is approximately 130, which is very moderate. He explained
that for a growing community, the tax rate will generally be higher because the City's needs are ahead
of its ability to pay.
Mr. Phillips asked what the City's current bond rating was. Mr. Medanich told the Committee that the
current General Obligation Bond rating is currently A 1 1, and the highest is AAA. He stated that the
rating represents not only what a city currently looks like financially,but also what it will look like after
the completion of debt payoff. He also explained that the rating agency looks at cities each year to
determine how they are adjusting to growth and if they have good economics, and the rating will go up
as that city improves.
3.Fire Department's Capital Improvement Project List
Fire Chief, Shan English presented information regarding the Wylie Fire Department's Capital
Improvement needs.
The first project is a training center that is five stories tall, to be located behind Station 2, and has
simulated apartments and a house. The facility will cost approximately $4.4 million, because the
concrete will be 8 inches thick, the building will last for approximately 30 years, and it will
adequately provide for every type of training necessary to successfully fight fires. The ISO 1 rating
that Wylie Fire Department currently has is directly related to an adequate training facility that must
be at least as tall as the tallest building in the City, up to 10 stories. Mr. Kerin asked if a regional
training facility had been explored and if other cities would reimburse the City to use the training
facility. Mr. English explained that Wylie has explored the possibility of a joint training facility, a
regional dispatch center and a regional mechanic shop with shared costs, and with the exception of
shared ambulance service, other cities would not participate in regional efforts. He also stated that
other departments do not train at Wylie's current training center, even though the offer has been
extended. Ms. Morrison asked if CCCCD offered training. Mr. English informed the Committee that
while firefighters take classes at CCCCD, taking City of Wylie equipment to the facilities is not an
option, as it leaves the City unprotected.
The second project is a Lake Rescue / Swift Water Simulator, that will be fed by water pumped
through it, possibly from the reservoir behind Station 2. The need for this simulator is a result of
training requirements by the Government. Collin County Fire Departments decided to split
responsibilities. Allen will provide for trench rescue, McKinney is High Angle / Confined Space
Rescue, Plano will perform Urban Search and Rescue, Frisco will provide Heavy Rescue, and each
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department has purchased equipment and begun training. Wylie has responsibility for Swift Water /
Lake Rescue. Much of the equipment has been purchased through the use of grants; however, WFD
must travel to Fort Worth to train for the Swift Water Rescue.
Mr. Cummings asked about the possibility of WFD being centrally located as part of the Town Center
concept. Mr. English stated that the current town center concept being explored on the Wells property
would locate Station 2 just minutes from the Town Center, and while there had been discussion about
relocating Station 2 to the Town Center, it would not improve response times, and would const the
taxpayers approximately $1.5 million. Mr. Larson asked if there was a possibility of locating Fire
Administration in the Town Center and what advantages there would be to Police and Fire sharing
space. Mr. English stated that Police, Fire Administration, Dispatch and possibly EOC could be
located within a Public Safety building at the Town Center. The benefits would be common areas that
could be shared, such as training rooms, the Emergency Operations Center. With the amount of
interfacing done between dispatch and both departments, having them centrally located would be
another benefit. Mr. Roath informed the Committee that unlike some cities in the area, Dispatch falls
under the supervision of the Fire Chief, and he does a very good job.
Mr. Griffin asked if the proposed training facilities would allow WFD to handle all known
emergencies. Mr. English stated that it will, because of the shared responsibilities throughout the
County.
Chairman Whitlow called a short recess at 8:48 P.M.
Chairman Whitlow re-convened the meeting at 8:59 P.M.
4.Public Services Department Capital Improvement Project List
Public Services Director, Mike Sferra presented information on the Public Services Department
Capital Improvement needs. He first reviewed the 1999 bond project. At Community Park, we spent
$215,000 and installed soccer field lighting, minor drainage improvements, miscellaneous sidewalks
and a 5,000 foot 6' wide asphalt walking trail.At Founders,we spent nearly$500,000 and constructed
two lighted baseball/softball fields, and installed lighting on several soccer fields.
He then reviewed projects recommended for Community Park, a 43 acre park located behind the
library at Thomas and Pirate. The proposed projects total $1.25 million, and include bleachers that are
safer for spectators, installation of an 8' wide concrete walking trail,per the Parks Master Plan. It also
includes drainage and irrigation improvements to athletic fields, bringing outfield fences closer,
building a higher quality concession and restroom center, and constructing a fourth t-ball field.
He also reviewed projects at Founders Park, a 65 acre park located behind the high school, needs
approximately $5.47 million dollars for projects. These projects include constructing a permanent
concession stand and restroom center, two more lighted baseball fields to finish out a four-plex
concept. Fourteen soccer fields would also be included in the package, seven lighted fields for games,
and seven fields for practice, all of which were recommended in the Master Plan. A pavilion, picnic
areas, a basketball court and a walking trail around the perimeter of the park as well as ancillary trails
to various locations within the park are all included in the cost.
Mr. Larson asked about additional parking at Founders Park. Mr. Sferra informed the Committee that
an additional 850 spaces are proposed at the south end of the current two baseball fields. Mr. Griffin
asked about the parking proximity to the playground.Mr. Sferra stated that the parking would be close
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to the playground, because it is just east of the current baseball fields. Mr. Larson asked if the soccer
fields planned for Founders Park were to accommodate current need or future growth. Mr. Sferra
stated that the Parks Master Plan called for 14 additional fields by 2011. Mr. Cummings asked if there
were any plans to convert soccer fields at Community Park to baseball or T-ball fields, due to the
addition at Founders. Mr. Sferra informed the Committee that there are currently no plans to convert
fields at Community Park.
Mr. Sferra then explained that the Wells property, a 253 acre tract that the City recently acquired, has
not yet been Master Planned, but he believes that once it is, it will cost approximately $5 million to
make improvements that the citizens can utilize. Mr. Larson asked if the funds would be for a nature
use, and Mr. Sferra informed the Committee that while the City is unsure what the Master Plan will
call for, he is confident that it will take $5 million in improvements to make the area useable by the
citizens.
Mr. Seely asked if the $5 million includes the 40 acres that will be acquired just west of the current
tract. Mr. Sferra stated that the Master Plan would likely include that area, as it would increase the
size to approximately 300 acres. Mr. Griffin inquired about the inclusion of the F.M. 1378 alignment
on the Master Plan, and Mr. Sferra explained that it would be incorporated, as would possible uses for
the current roadway. Mr. Phillips asked when the Master Plan would be underway. Mr. Sferra
informed the Committee that it would take up to 3 months to hire an architect and to see any
measurable results. Ms. Morrison asked if a swimming pool was included in the proposed amount,
and if a pool would be within the Parks Department. Mr. Sferra stated that the aquatic center has been
proposed under the Facilities Study and that it is not included in the Parks Capital Improvement list;
however, if one were built, it would fall under the auspices of the Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Larson asked if there was any possibility for something more concrete on the Wells property
before the bond package is submitted, as citizens might have a problem giving the City a blank check.
Mr. Sferra stated that if Staff could develop information in a very short time period, he would present
it to the Committee. Mr. Chestnut recommended utilizing the City survey that was sent out as part of
the Parks Master Plan process to identify what could be done with the Wells property.
Mr. Chestnut asked if the Parks Master Plan recommended a site north of the Wells property and if
the City would be pursuing a property in the Sage Creek area, which would allow for fields in the
northern portion of the City, as opposed to having them concentrated at Founders Park and on the
Wells tract. Mr. Sferra stated that the Master Plan did recommend a regional park north of the Wells
tract; however, with the successful acquisition of the Wells tract, time will tell if an opportunity to
acquire other parkland to the north. Mr. Griffin asked if there were any funds being appropriated for
Olde City Park. Mr. Sferra stated that all the projects being presented were identified as goals in the
Parks Master Plan, and that Staff is attempting to meet as many of those goals as possible.
Mr. Phillips asked when the Master Plan was developed, what growth potential was used to project
the City to 2011, when the last impact fee study was done, and what growth rate was used. Mr. Sferra
stated that the Master Plan was adopted in 2002, and the projected population for 2011 was 38,500.
He also stated that the impact fee study was completed two years ago, and he was unsure of the
growth rate, but he would get back to the Committee with that information. Mr. Roath informed the
Committee that the City is currently working on updating the Impact Fees, and a large part of that is
finalizing a Land Use Plan, which the City will use to project potential population. Mr. Williamson
stated that a 20% growth rate would mean only an increase of$3 million,because it is about housing
permits and growth in number of rooftops,as opposed to population growth.
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ADJOURNMENT
With no further business before the Committee, Chairman Whitlow adjourned the meeting at 9:31 p.m.
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MINUTES
Wylie Citizen Bond Advisory Committee
Thursday,May 12,2005—6:30 p.m.
Wylie Municipal Complex—Council Chambers
2000 State Highway 78 North
CALL TO ORDER
Committee Chairman called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m. with the following Committee Members
present: Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller, Daniel Chestnut, Jamie Gregg, Jim Griffin, Janet Johnston,
Dennis Larson, Grace Morrsion, and Jeri Smith. Members absent were: Doris Craighead, Jim
Cummings,Linda Jourdan, Chuck Kerin, and Mike Phillips.
Staff Present were: City Manager, Mark Roath; City Engineer, Chris Hoisted; and Executive Assistant,
Brandy Brooks.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1.Approval of the Minutes of April 28,2005
Chairman Jay Whitlow asked if there were changes that needed to be made to the minutes. The
Committee Members voted 10-FOR and 0-AGAINST in favor of approval.
2.Website Feedback Form
Mr. Mark Roath, City Manager,presented the Committee with an update on the feedback form.
Based on the comments from the Committee, Mr. Mark Witter, Public Information Officer outlined
the following changes in a memo ,which was handed around for the Committee Members:
• Requires all boxes (name, address,and comment box)to be filled in for submittal
• Indicates public record
• If a person wants to send written response,the address to send letters to.
Mr. Mark Roath explained that written responses will be put into Laserfiche system. He also
explained that Mr. Mark Witter will post all responses within 24 hours of receipt. A webpage has
been created for the purpose of disseminating the responses received.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
Ms. Anne Hiney,residing at 301 N. Cottonbelt Avenue, Wylie,Texas, addressed the Committee, stating
that she would like to see the recently purchased 253 acre property at Brown and FM 1378 stay as
preserved as possible. She believes that was the original intention that was expressed to Mrs. Wells, and
she asks that the Committee keep that in mind.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mr.Mark Roath mentioned that next week,Mr. Mike Sferra,Public Services Director and Mr.
Shan Engish,Fire Chief, would present their depai titient's Capital Improvement Project Lists.
3. Engineering Department's Capital Improvement Project List
City Engineer, Chris Hoisted, presented information on roads and streets within the City of
Wylie that staff is requesting be included in the upcoming bond election. He first reviewed items that
were remaining from the 1999 Bond Election, including FM 1378, Alanis, and Ballard Street. Vice
Chairman Marvin Fuller requested information on what the original projected price of the Alanis
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Project versus how much it is currently costing the City; he also inquired as to the status of the
Ballard Street Project.Mr. Hoisted stated that price increases of steel and concrete caused an overage
of approximately $600,000 on the Alanis Project, and that Ballard Street still had not been bid for
construction. He then reviewed the road improvements that are necessary to bring infrastructure to
current and future needs. He explained that staff feels F.M. 1378 between Parker Road and Brown
• Street is a high priority, and that the County has given $3 Million in bond money and has begun a
design study. Ms. Janet Johnston asked if the City would be required to bear most of the cost. Mr.
Hoisted informed the committee that the project total is estimated to be $12.7 Million, and the City
will.need to contribute $9.7 Million to the project. He also stated that staff intends to request that
F.M. 1378 be taken off the State Road system and the City will then control the roadway and
necessary maintenance, which will save 20% in construction costs and three to five years in time to
build the roadway. Mr. Jim Griffin asked about any work done at F.M. 1378 and Park. Mr. Holsted
explained that there will be a temporary light, grading work and turn lanes on F.M. 1378, but that
those are just temporary until the Project is constructed. He also explained that all roads will be four-
lane divided with the ability to be expanded into the median for a total of six lanes. Mr. Jim Griffin
asked if the cost of the Brown Street Project between F.M. 1378 and Ballard included straightening
the curve; Mr. Hoisted informed the Committee that ROW would need to be obtained, but that the
construction costs included straightening the curve. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller inquired as to the
County's monetary input for Park Boulevard between McCreary and F.M. 1378. Mr. Hoisted stated
that the County has only input money for F.M. 1378; however,the rest of the projects would be City-
funded. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller inquired about the ROW acquisition for Park Boulevard
between Parker and Spring Creek; Mr.Hoisted informed the Committee that there had been some re-
alignment due to swaps between Collin County and North Texas Municipal Water District. Vice
Chairman Marvin Fuller inquired about the Brown Project from S.H. 78 to Anson Parkway; Mr.
Hoisted informed the Committee that funds could be added to extend the road to the potential WISD
High School site. Mr. Mark Roath noted that the City is in the process of purchasing 2.5 acres at the
Southeast corner of WA Allen and Brown for the third fire station. Marvin Fuller asked how much of
the 1999 Bond funds were moved from the Stone Road Project; Mr. Hoisted told the Committee that
approximately $3 Million dollars were moved, and that staff has asked Collin County to move their
allocated funds be moved to the Ballard Street project, so that the funds are not lost. Ms. Jeri Smith
inquired as to the inclusion of street lights and traffic signals in the costs; Mr. Hoisted informed the
Committee that funds were included for street lights, landscaping and stoplights where appropriate.
Mr. Dan Chestnut asked about possible WISD monies for the Brown Street Project from S.H. 78 to
Anson Parkway; Mr. Hoisted said they would have some participation across their frontage where
they back up to Brown; however, with the cost of the road they will need to build from S.H. 78, they
will not provide much funding for additional access from Brown Street. Mr. Dennis Larson asked if
• they will have access to Bennett Road; Mr. Hoisted informed the Committee that while the City has
not seen any site plans, that the current assumption is yes. Mr. Dan Chestnut inquired as to the
abandonment of the curve in the road and the existence of Bennett, since the plan would be to take
Brown straight to the school site. Mr. Hoisted told the Committee that while the priority would be
given to the east/west street and the concrete would stop somewhere on the High School property,
there would still be access to Bennett Road and the neighborhoods existing in that area. Mr. Dennis
Larson inquired about the need for a four lane roadway to exist along Stone Road, and about the
financial responsibility for Alanis from Ballard to old F.M. 544. Mr. Hoisted stated that the
Thoroughfare Plan calls for Stone Road to ultimately be a six lane roadway, and that Alanis between
Ballard and old F.M. 544 is the responsibility of the property owner/developer of the property. Mr.
Dan Chestnut asked if the property lines would allow for the roadway to be expanded; Mr. Hoisted
informed the Committee that there is enough room for a four lane divided,but that some land would
need to be acquired in a few places. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller requested that Staff look at costs
for bringing Alanis through to old F.M. 544, as well as extending Sanden through the Wells tract and
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having a grade change under the railroad. Mr. Jim Griffin inquired about bridging the road at F.M.
1378 and F.M. 544 to change traffic at that intersection. Mr. Holsted informed the Committee that
the railroad will be raising about 'Y2 mile of track to alleviate the intersection congestion. Vice
Chairman Marvin Fuller inquired about Sanden being a thoroughfare north of the Wells tract to Park
Boulevard; Mr.Hoisted informed the Committee that while the street does go through, it is partially a
residential street, however, it is not a connector street. Mr. Chris Seely asked if the City was
collecting escrow funds from developers for the roads on the Capital Improvement Project listing.
Mr. Hoisted stated that while the City does collect escrow funds for street improvements from
developers, there is not much available for the state roads; however, McMillen will be partially
funded by the Creekside developers, either through the building of the road or through escrowing
funds. He also stated that the funding that Staff is requesting is in addition to the funds being
escrowed by developers. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller inquired about the dam road being reopened,
as it would take pressure off of S.H. 78.Mr.Hoisted stated that the road over the Lavon Dam was not
within the City and instead is controlled by the Army Corps of Engineers, and that the possibility of
it being re-opened is slim.Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller asked about Bennett and Ballard traveling to
the South. Mr. Hoisted stated that the thoroughfare plan calls for an outer lake loop, but that road
improvements in that area are contingent upon the level of development, and that developers would
be required to build portions of the roads or escrow funds. He also suggested that once the 190
Turnpike exits are determined,there may be a traffic need in the southeastern portion of the City,but
that need cannot currently be determined.
Mr. Mark Roath offered information to the Committee that had been requested at the April 28,
2005 meeting. He gave each member present a memo that had attached the existing City facility
square footage, as well as two funding options presented by Mr. Dwayne Brinkley.
Chairman Jay Whitlow asked that prior to everyone's departure, they review the Citizen Online
Feedback Form, as it might go online that evening or the next day. Mr. Mark Roath suggested that it
would be available Friday,May 13, 2005.
Mr.Mike Phillips and Mr. Chuck Kerin arrived at 7:11 p.m.
Ms. Janet Johnston inquired about Parks and Recreation presenting options for a City pool. Mr.
Mark Roath stated that Brinkley Sargent provided information about an aquatic center, and suggested
that the Committee could bring it up for discussion.
Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller asked about how the street behind the high school functions and
flows. Mr. Hoisted informed the Committee that once F.M. 1378 is developed South of F.M. 544, it
will swing to the West of Hooper and eventually cross S.H. 78, as shown on the thoroughfare plan,
and that the road behind the school will be mainly park entrance. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller also
inquired about how Hensley and Hooper will intersect. Mr. Hoisted stated that Hensley will
eventually swing to the North and West and link to the future McCreary Road. He also stated that
there has been discussion with WISD about the realignment of that road, because the WISD has
purchased property at Hooper and Hensley for two school sites. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller asked
that the cost of developing Hensley past the proposed school site be researched. Ms. Janet Johnston
asked about the timeline for F.M. 1378 from Brown Street to Parker Road; Mr. Hoisted informed the
Committee that it would take two years for design and Right of Way acquisition, and an additional
two years of construction. Ms. Janet Johnston then asked about the impact the construction would
have on nearby roadways; Mr. Hoisted suggested that the amount of traffic on alternate roadways
would most likely increase similarly to the increases seen from the S.H. 78 construction. Mr. Jim
Griffin asked if F.M. 1378 was considered a high priority due to the amount of traffic currently; Mr.
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Holsted stated that traffic was the main concern, as approximately 15,000 cars pass through the
intersection of F.M. 1378 and Parker Road every day. He also informed the Committee that while
Collin County is currently contributing $3 Million to the project for design and Right of Way
acquisition,they will remove the funding in approximately two years if the City is unable to fund the
remaining portion. Mr. Mike Phillips expressed concern about the concentration of funds going to
F.M. 1378 and Brown Street. Mr. Holsted stated that he considers the projects high priority based on
the traffic needs. Mr. Mike Phillips asked about traffic counts. Mr. Holsted informed the Committee
that he had traffic counts, but they were about two years old. He also stated that while some traffic
counts were performed approximately six months ago, the numbers were skewed due to traffic
diverting from the S.H. 78 construction project, and suggested that new counts will be obtained as
soon as the project is completed. Mr. Mark Roath stated that Staff is looking not only at traffic
counts, but also at accident patterns around the City. Ms. Jamie Gregg asked about the use of the
remaining funds from the 1999 Bond for sidewalks. Mr. Holsted stated that the funds can be used for
both building of new and repair of existing sidewalks. Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller asked if staff
was looking at repairs that needed to be made to older sections of roadways throughout town. Mr.
Holsted suggested that staff would be willing to look at older streets, if the Committee would like.
Vice Chairman Marvin Fuller asked that staff look at the cost of improving Eubanks form S.H. 78 to
Brown.Mr.Holsted stated that he would look at improving Eubanks to a concrete street.
Ms. Janet Johnston asked if there was a limit to how much money the City would be asking for
in the Bond Election. Mr. Mark Roath stated that there is not a limit, because the Committee will
look at the projects, narrow the list, and speak to the Financial Advisor to see what options are
available.He suggested that the Committee may want to consider two options. One option is to come
up with a specific list of projects and take that to the City Council as the Bond recommendation. The
second option is to come up with a larger list of projects, and recommend phased selling of the
Bonds. The first option might result in another Bond Committee and Election a few years down the
road. While the second option may result in a higher Bond Election amount, the voters would not
have to decide on one large Bond sale,but instead smaller amounts over a longer period of time. One
advantage of the second option is the reduction of costs by eliminating a second election in a few
years, as well as the Financial Advisor costs.Ms. Janet Johnston asked if the Bond Election would be
similar to that of the WISD's recent Bond Election. Mr. Mark Roath stated that he was unsure as he
was not here for the last WISD Bond Election; he also stated that the City of Frisco recently had a
phased-Bond Sale Election. He suggested that the Financial Advisor would be able to offer
information on the different options available. Mr. Jim Griffin stated that he has spoken to a number
of residents that say they will not vote for an all-or-nothing Bond Election.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business before the Committee, Chairman Whitlow adjourned the meeting at 7:26 p.m.
Jay Whitlow,Chairman
ATTEST:
Mark B.Roath,City Manager
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