01-04-1988 (Planning & Zoning) Minutes PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING - MINUTES
JANUARY 4, 1988
The City of Wylie Planning and Zoning Commission met in
regular session on Monday, January 4, 1988 in the Community
Room. A quorum was present and notice of the meeting had been
posted in a time and manner required by law. Those present
were Chairman Brian Chaney, Vice-Chairman Ben Scholz, Marty
Stovall, Bart Peddicord, Cecilia Wood, R. P. Miller, Roy
Faires, Code Enforcement Officer, and Candi White, Secretary.
Bob Skipwith arrived late.
Chairman Chaney called the meeting to order.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE NOVEMBER 30, 1987
MEETING: Chairman Chaney asked if there were any corrections
to be made to the November 30, 1987 minutes. Mr. Peddicord
stated that on the second page, second item, the third word
should have read "sell", rather than "sale". He also noted
that six lines down, in the third item, Marty Stovall had
asked if they already had a sales office in the development,
and that there didn' t seem to be an answer in the minutes.
Mr. Faires, Code Enforcement Officer, replied that there was
an answer, but that it probably should be clarified to say
that there was a sales office set up, but that it had been
moved. Mr. Peddicord also said that the ward "had" needed to
be added to the first sentence in the last item.
A motion was made by Bart Peddicord to approve the minutes
with the noted corrections. The motion was seconded by Ben
Scholz. The motion carried with all in favor.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR A ZONING
CATEGORY FOR A FIRING RANGE: Chairman Chaney asked Code
Enforcement Officer, Roy Faires, to comment on this item. Mr.
Faires explained to the commission that the zoning ordinance
is a permissive law, rather than a prohibiting law, therefore
anything that is riot specifically listed as permitted, is
automatically prohibited. Mr. Faires went ors to say that
someone had shown some interest in opening a firing range in
Wylie. He also said that after much discussion, City Manager,
John Pitstick, asked him in what zoning a firing range would
fit. Mr. Faires explained to him that there wasn' t an
appropriate zoning. He went on to say that his recommendation
would be a specific use permit and only in an industrial
zoning. Chairman Chaney asked Mr. Faires what kind of
ordinances other cities have for firing ranges. Mr. Faires
said that most cities don' t have firing ranges. Chairman
Chaney said that he didn' t see a problem with an indoor range,
but felt like there might be a problem with protection of the
citizens with an outdoor range. He also felt like there might
be a problem with the ordinance in Wylie that prohibits
firearms.
Mr. Miller wondered why a city without a firing range would
— want one. Mr. Faires explained that the city couldn' t just
tell a man that they don' t want him or his business.
Ms. Hood asked why the city couldn" t specify a hundred acre
radius on either side of a range.
Chairman Chaney also asked if provisions could be listed, such
as pistol and archery, without shotgun and rifle.
Mr. Faires answered both questions when he said that there
must be an area that is large enough for shotguns, but
wouldn' t have to approve the specific use permit.
Ms. Wood asked if archery consisted of bow and arrow, as well
as cross bow. Mr. Faires said that cross bow shouldnvt even
be considered.
Chairman Chaney asked if the range could be limited to all
indoor use. Mr. Faires said yes, and that whatever the
commission decided would be taken before the council for their
thoughts before an ordinance was constructed.
Mr. Scholz was concerned with constructing an ordinance that
was sure to hold up. Mr. Faires said the commission needs to
be sure and enumerate why such a permit was denied, and could
be tied into the zoning law and be denied due to health,
safety, and welfare.
Mr. Skipwith stated that he would definitely like to see heavy
restrictions on an outdoor range.
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Mr. Miller felt like there should not be a long time span on
the permit and that it should have to be renewed every year.
Mr. Faires explained that ny time limitation could be
specified, but that a gun range would be a capital investment,
which should be kept in mind when setting the time limit.
Chairman Chaney stated that the commission should decide on
some distinctions that need to be made to take before the
council, such as long rifle, shotgun, long bow, cross bow,
pistol, automatic weapons, indoor and outdoor ranges, and
setting perimeters that would be legally acceptable without
overstepping authority. He also felt like there should be a
time provision on the permit and that it should be limited to
Industrial Zoning, which would automatically solve some
problems that could be caused in other zonings.
Mr. Miller asked if there were any positive reasons for having
a firing range. Chairman Chaney said that it would help the
sales tax revenue. Mr. Faires added that the ammunition alone
would help the sales tax revenue tremendously. Chairman
~- Chaney also said that Mesquite has a firing range that is a
nice place, and has no problems, and fee�s- t-hat,-Wy-lie would `
` benefit from one also, provided there were definite
limitations.
Mr. Miller asked if there is an appropriate place in Wylie for
a range. Mr. Faires said that the prospective buyers were
looking for cheap land and something in the flood plain, and
there are only a couple of places which would be appropriate.
_ Mr. Faires also said that with the present zoning restriction
controlling noise and pollution at the property line, the
commission could go with an indoor range with permitted use in
Industrial Zoning.
Mr. Skipwith said that he would like the commission to specify
that there be one person as a supervisor for a specified
amount of users.
Mr. Faires said that another thought would be to have a
specific use within the zoning category and a comprehensive
ordinance governing firing ranges in general. He also added
the possibility for annual licensing.
Chairman Chaney made a motion to table this item for Mr.
Faires to come back with a specific use permit and ordinance
governing such. Mr. S4ipwith seconded the motion. The motion
carried with all in favor.
ADJOURN: There being no other business, a motion was made by
Mr. Skipwith to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Peddicord. The motion carried with all in favor.
Brian Chaney, C airman
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Respectfully submitted:
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Candi White, Secretary