02-01-1999 (Citizens Bond Committee) Minutes MINUTES
CITIZENS BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE
WYLIE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX
2000 Highway 78 North, Wylie;Texas 75098
Meeting#1
FEBRUARY 1, 1999
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Staff Present:
Toni Young Mike Collins,City Manager
Carter Porter Mindy Manson, Asst. to the City Manager
Patricia Nethery Jack Jones, Supt. of Public Works
Rita Smith Chris Holstead, Hogan Corporation
Wanda Sparks, Diane Collins, Secretary ,
Chuck Trimble
Julie Schmader
Sharon Dowdy
Warner Washington
Roger Smith
Donna Larson
Gary Bowland
Nelson Underwood
Mark Cooper
Lois Swartz
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM. by Mike Collins, City Manager.
INTRODH(2110-1N1 OF MEMRE
DISCUSSION AND IDENTIFICATIONNfi OF PROJECTS
Presented by Chris Holstead,Hogan Corporation
W l: 12"Water Main along F.M. 44-Utility relocation of existing water line on north side required
for widening and reconstruction of state road
Rita Smith:Jack, our line doesn't go all the way to Murphy Road does it?
Chris Holstead: No ma'am. This starts at Marshall Lane and runs west 2300 feet.
Lois Swartz: Was part of that done when you did the intersection?
Chris Holstead: No. This line has been here a while.
Mindy Manson/Chris Holstead: Explanation
Sharon Dowdy:Are TxDOT improvements contingent on this?
Chris Holstead: Yes
W2: 8"Water Main in alley between Third St. and Fourth St. -Replace an existing sub-standard
water line
Chris Holstead: Explanation
W3: 8" Water Main from Alanis south to future school -Provide service to future school site
Gary Bowland:Is that where the new school is going to be Located?
Chris Holstead.That is my understanding.
Warner Washington: Will that be used to provide water only to the future school or to homes as
well?
Chris Holstead:As growth occurs it will-be used to-provide water to facilities other than
the school.
Carter Porter: When are we expecting the new school to be developed?
Chris Holstead: I don't know. What we have tried to do is to establish projects that we
can foresee the City doing in the next few years.
Mindy Manson: Explanation of the City's Master Plan for sewer and water
W4: Miscellaneous Pump Station Improvements- Service pump upgrades at existing plant-sites
to meet TNRCC service pump requirements
Toni Young:How many pump stations are there?
Chris Holstead: Three
Jack Jones: Explanation/Description of Pump Stations
Si: Rehab and Replace Rush Creek Lift Station and Force Main(Existing Site)
S1A: Additional Cost to move Rush Creek Lift Station south to C.R. 732 and new Force Main
Chris Holstead: Explanation and locations of lift stations
Lois Swartz: Isn't the last lift station that you described outside of the city limits?
Mindy Manson: It is located in the ETJ.
Warner Washington:Are they on septic system there?
Mindy Manson: There are some.
Lois Swartz:So, the new subdivisions would require the builder to be on sewer line, but the existing
one's would be grandfathered?
Mindy Manson: For the septic? There are some individual septic systems-that were in
place prior to annexation.
Lois Swartz:Is there any subdivisions inside the city limits that are on septic?
Mindy Manson: I am not aware of any. -
Lois Swartz: Didn't we have to do that at Newport Harbor? Didn't we have to build some new
gravity lines?
Jack Jones: We had to build a lift station.
Lois Swartz: I understand that they did not have a gravity line.
Jack Jones: Right.
Gary Bowland: This existing line that NTMWD is going to allow us to use for the proposed new
Rush Creek Lift Station, are we going to have to buy from them?
Chris Holstead: No, it is my understanding that it is the City's.
Carter Porter:How big is it?
Jack Jones: 15" -Which would cost $85 per foot to construct.
Gary Bowland:If you had to construct that what line would you put in?
Chris Holstead: It would be something bigger than 15".
Nelson Underwood: If you chose not to rebuild in the existing location would there be any cost
savings?
Chris Holstead: Construction wise it would be the same.
Carter Porter: Would there be anything that we could salvage from the old one?
Chris Holstead: Pumps and a little bit of electrical.
Carter Porter: Will we be putting it as backup? •
Jack Jones: No. Explanation.
Carter Porter: So you are planning on using the pumps from Si to SIA?
Jack Jones: Right. Explanation.
Sharon Dowdy:Doesn't that line item need to be placed in "maintain current standards"?
Chris Holstead:Yes, it could.
S2 S3, S4, S5,'S6: 8"'in Alley betweenBallard'St.a,ni Jackson St,8" in Alley between Second St.
and Third St.; 8" in Alley between Third St. and Fourth St.; g"in Alley between.Masters and Oak;
36" float Muddy Creek South; 301 from existing-WWTP South;-48" to-Future WWTP.--
Video of sewer line shown
Lois Swartz:How old is this line?
Jack Jones: 35-50 Years
Gary Bowland: Where is that at?
Jack Jones: Between Third and Fourth.
Gary Bowland:Are you talking about a lot of money for these lines?
Mindy Manson: Not in the grand scheme of things.
Warner Washington:How long are those clay pipes projected to last?
Chris Holstead: I've never done any clay pipes insulation. Nobody does anymore.
Jack Jones: Depends on the type of soil.
2nd Video Shown
Lois Swartz:Is that water coming into the house or going out of the house?
Jack Jones: It's water going out of your house.
Toni Young: Is that root penetration?
Jack Jones: Yes.
Gary Bowland:Is that not an EPA problem?
Chris Holstead: It is regulated by the state:
Nelson Underwood:How often do you have to go in and clean?
Jack Jones: (answer)
Lois Swartz: How deep are they underground?
Jack Jones: 81h to 9 feet.
S7, S8, S9: 36"from Muddy Creek South;30" from Existing WWTP South;48" to Future WWTP
Gary Bowland: When do you think they will be building the new plant?
Chris Holstead: 3 years. They will be online in 3 years.
S9: I& I Rehab Program
Gary Bowland:Jack, how many separate projects do you think the I&I affects?
Jack Jones: Rush Creek, Hilltop, etc.
Gary Bowland:A whole bunch?
Jack Jones: Yes sir.
Carter Porter:Jack, we are talking about a complete pull out and rebuild, right?
Jack Jones: Yes sir.
D l: Hensley Lane-Close Hensley Lane on either-side-of existing culverts. Install temporary cul-de
sacs.
Gary Bowland:Is that mostly open land?
Mindy Manson: There are a few houses.
Gary Bowland:How will they get to 78?
Jack Jones: They will have to go to 544 and then connect to 78.
Gary Bowland: What will the minimum standards be?
Mindy Manson: Explanation of the City's minimum standards.
Patricia Nethery: When did those standards change?
Chris Holstead: I don't know.
Patricia Nethery: Obviously they weren't changed before Presidential Estates was built. -
Mike Collins: Explanation of storm drainage related to Ms.Nethery's property.
Patricia Nethery: So that can't happen again now in other subdivisions?
Chris Holstead: No, they are all required to meet the minimum standard regulations.
D2: Valentine Park Channel Continue improvements west to creek which include reshaping chwnnel
and adding rock riprap.
D3,D4:Ditch on south side of Stone Rd.,Ditch on north side of Stone Rd.
Gary Bowland/Lois Swartz: They have got to cut it down.
Lois Swartz:It already floods.
Gary Bowland: Will they also widen Stone Road?
Mindy Manson: 2 lane is proposed in the County Bond.
Mike Collins: Explanation
Donna Larson: When NTMWD does the improvements to Ballard, how is that going to affect Stone
Rd.?
Mike Collins: Explanation.
Rita Smith: Does that mean cutting it down and getting rid of the ditches?
Mike Collins: Right.
Warner Washington: What about the kids walking to school.
Mike Collins: Sidewalks as well.
D5: First St.to Second St. - Concrete lined drainage channel
Db: Rustic Oaks Channel - Install underground storm drain system to carry low flow drainage
underground. Leave open,earthen-lined channel above storm drams to provide additional capacity
for large rainfall events.
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Mark Cooper: Where does the underground water go?
Chris Holstead: It charges downstream.
Lois Swartz: The street that runs parallel to that, Rustic Trail. Is it because the water can't go
anywhere that the water stands in the middle of the road?
Chris Holstead: That is right.
Mark Cooper:But what are you going to do with the water?
Chris Holstead: It will just discharge into an existing stream.
Mark Cooper: You are not going to flood me are you?
Chris Holstead: No
Mike Collins:Explanation.
D7: Graham Ct -Install interceptor swales along private property to divert flow.
D8: Presidential Estates -Remove existing structure and extend earthen-lined channel south.
D9: Foxwood Lane cul-de-sac in Stone Grove addt'n.- Construct swales and berms on.private
property to-divert flow over curb and around structure.
D10: Brown St. east of Kreymer Lane-Remove old reinforced concrete drainage basins along south
side and replace with 84" storm drainage pipe_
Nelson Underwood: On the Stone Road issue, that is a Farm-to-Market road. Is there any
consideration to use State funds for the improvement for that?
Lois Swartz:I don't like City money to be responsible for a state maintained road
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Diane Collins, Secretary