01-19-2008 (Parks & Recreation) Minutes Wylie Parks and Recreation Board
CITY OF WYLIE
Minutes
Wylie Parks and Recreation Board Retreat
Saturday, January 19, 2008- 9:00 am
Bart Peddicord Community Center
100 W. Oak Wylie, Texas 75098
CALL TO ORDER
Announce the presence of a Quorum.
Assistant Parks Superintendent Robert Diaz called the meeting to order at 9:17 a.m.
Board Members present were: Frankie Delgado, Dan Chesnut, Benny Jones, Donna Larson, and
Brandi Lafleur. Parks Chair Anne Hiney and Board Member David Willey were absent.
Staff members present were: Public Services Director Mike Sferra, Parks Superintendent Bill
Nelson, Assistant Parks Superintendent Robert Diaz, Recreation Supervisor Tori Hindman, Public
Services Secretary Dionna Covington and Parks & Recreation Secretary Charlotte Rice.
CITIZENS PARTICIPATION
No one was present for voluntary citizen participation.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. Review& Discuss Goals & Objectives from 2007-2008
Staff/Board Discussion
A brief overview of 2007 priorities were discussed, along with updates and project realizations, e.g.
the skate park at Joel Scott park.
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz introduced new Parks & Recreation Secretary Charlotte Rice and spoke briefly about the
Department moving to Community Park. Board members then reviewed the draft agenda 2008
Parks Board Retreat as presented by staff. Addressable items included budget priorities,
construction of the Recreation Center and other developments for park projects. The Board had no
proposed changes to the agenda, which included:
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o Budget Priorities
o Recreation Center Amenities Update
-Teen Center
-Water Park/Aquatic Center
o Trail Connections
o Skate Park update
o Practice Fields
o McMilian &Wylie East land purchases
o Staff Priorities
o Recreation Center Enterprise Plan Budget& Expenditure
o Update on Founders Park Project
Future Recreation Center Discussion
• Teen Center
Staff/Board Discussion
Robert Diaz stated that developing unique after-school programming for children/teens was an
essentiality for the Recreation Center. The department hopes to work with WISD in offering
mutually-beneficial alternatives to children lingering after school without supervision or
enhancement activities. Discussion of housing after-school programs at current school buildings
was considered as a possible interim solution until the Recreation Center is complete.
• Water Park/Aquatic Center
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz said that the proposed water park would not be included due to high costs, noting that if
the group wanted to recommend an aquatic center as a board, then discussions could be offered
at a later date, but would most likely have to be accomplished through a future bond proposal.
Trail Connections
Staff/Board Discussion
Bill Nelson provided a list of future trail connections, along with maps outlining high-priority areas
for future funding. On that list was Sage Creek (Phase 8 & 9), Creekside Estates, Muddy Creek
Preserve and the Wells property. Board Member Donna Larson asked when the City expected to
know something; Mr. Nelson estimated that by this fall—perhaps even summer—the county
commissioners would have feedback. Mr. Diaz added that the existing master plan was unclear in
outlining trails, whereas the new plan would better focus on specifics.
Skate Park
Staff/Board Discussion
The skate park was completed last fall (2007) and has proven to be a beneficial addition to Joel
Scott Park.
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Practice Fields
Staff/Board Discussion
Board and Staff agreed that there was a need for more practice fields, which led to talk of
Founders Park: FC Dallas recently sent a list of recommendations "necessary in meeting their
standards for fields and lighting". This significantly-larger estimate would force tangential
increases: concession expansion, additional bleachers, lighting/field drainage system costs and
added engineering fees. The Board disliked the idea of spending $3.5 million over the original
projection and feared that conceding to FC Dallas' requirements could prove too costly without
securing monetary sponsorship on their end. Parks Superintendent Bill Nelson noted that with
Avalon Park, although TXU had an easement issue, backstops, rye seed and bermuda seed were
budgeted for practice fields, though funding for irrigation was not obtained.
McMillan Property
Staff/Board Discussion
The Department said they may tour the McMillan property this spring; currently the bulk of it is
floodplain.
2. Staff Priorities for Fiscal Year 2008-2009
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz declared the primary focus for 2008 was finalizing details to construct and operate the
Recreation Center. This mission, along with the $5.5 million Founders Park project, yields
approximately $16 million for parks undertakings this year. Priorities following the aforementioned
included generating a new master plan (as the existing 2002 plan is beyond its fifth year). A new
plan is needed as the community has changed over the past five years and consequently, priorities
may have changed. Crafting a plan for the Wells property was also deemed essential. Mr. Diaz
said that the City of Frisco effects a new master plan every two years, as a result of rapid growth
and that we will eventually strive for the same.
3. Board Priorities for Fiscal Year 2008-2009
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz opened the conversation by iterating the need for a teen programming. He said currently,
many children go to the library after school, which spearheaded the creation of after-school
programming within that facility. The library is working on securing computers and a proper teen
area. After much discussion, it was determined that until the Recreation Center is completed, any
persons knowing WISD principals were encouraged to talk to them about utilizing school rooms for
programs. It was stressed that as individuals, the board could talk to principals; however, as a
Board that should not happen. Mr. Nelson also encouraged the board to attend council meetings
because if it voiced its priorities over and over again, that would amplify chances of being awarded
future budget funding.
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Board Comments
Co-Chairman Frankie Delgado expressed concern about the Recreation Center's opening being
several years away and where children could go in the interim. He also questioned if the
Recreation Center would be too far away to access physically, as the library is currently within
walking distance from Burnett Junior High School, but the Recreation Center would not be.
Recreation Supervisor Tori Hindman suggested that perhaps each school could have one common
bus exclusively for those attending programs at the Recreation Center.
Co-Chairman Frankie Delgado expressed concern over the Recreation Center's operation once
constructed. He strongly advised that key employees be hired well in advance, to which Mr. Diaz
replied that management would be hired up to one full year in advance and that for marketing
alone (e.g. pre-selling passes), this was a necessary measure.
Board Member Donna Larson raised questions about staffing issues in the interim. Ms. Hindman
proposed recruiting high-school kids who participate in honors programs to volunteer, as those
organizations usually require earning a certain number of community service points.
4. Question & Answer Session with City Manager
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz opened the question & answer session with City Manager Mindy Manson by listing the
three priorities considered most important for 2008. She agreed that WISD should definitely be
involved with the proposed teen center, but warned that the City's budget would be tight over the
next few years, so discussions between the Board and WISD would not be enough to make the
idea a reality—that it must become a community endeavor to be successful. There was talk of
conducting surveys to determine what activities were popular with different age groups. Staff
suggested sending a survey home to parents to gauge how many would say yes to having their
child participate in an after-school program. Their responses would determine how many staff
members would be required. That number could then be broken down to determine how high a fee
would be necessary to charge the student in order to pay the staff. Mr. Delgado stated that a fee
would subconsciously suggest commitment and that if the school would donate energy/janitorial
costs then it would be even more appealing. Ms. Manson suggested targeting a city with an
already-established program within schools, as "it is always better to present a model of success to
use as an example."
An overview of the new FC Dallas requirements was met with dissatisfaction from City Manager
Manson. Her concern was how long it might take to break even. Another concern was if the
number of people that FC Dallas would draw would be enough to justify costs. The session closed
with City Manager Manson requesting that the Department speak with FC Dallas before the
February 2008 meeting.
Board Comments
Co-Chairman Frankie Delgado said his expectations had been satisfied with the bond alone and he
didn't feel that the FC's added expenditures would be worth the cost.
Board Member Dan Chesnut commented that the money the City would have to spend on the
upgrade might be better utilized for staffing the teen center proposal.
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5. Recreation Center Enterprise Plan
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Diaz opened the conversation with a map illustrating primary and secondary service areas,
targeting demographics from an immediate vicinity (primary) and a more expansive zone of
neighboring towns and counties (secondary). Mr. Diaz and Ms. Hindman reported results of other
successful recreational centers, namely the new Rowlett Center, West Plano Center and
Rockwall's YMCA. The budget for staffing the Recreation Center was discussed, along with
revenue comparison and operational cost models (using two scales of recovery provided by a
private consulting firm). Board was pleased with how reasonable the fee structures were compared
to other fitness centers. Mr. Diaz stressed the importance of finalizing the fee structures by next
year, so pre-sale, discounted annual passes might be marketed before the facility's actual opening
date.
Mr. Diaz shared the Recreation Center's two-floor schematic and Ms. Hindman showed the Board
examples of climbing walls and other photos from her visit to West Plano's new facility.
6. Founders Park Bond Project
Staff/Board Discussion
After an additional discussion regarding FC Dallas' upgrade, it was determined that the
Department contact them regarding its impact.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 2:19 p.m.
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