06-25-2007 (Parks & Recreation) Minutes Wylie Parks and Recreation Board
CITY OF WYLIE
Minutes
Wylie Parks and Recreation Board
Monday,June 25,2007—6:30 pm
Wylie Municipal Complex—Council Chambers Conference Room
2000 Highway 78 North
CALL TO ORDER
Announce the presence of a Quorum.
Chairman Dan Chesnut called the meeting to order at 6:37 p.m. Board Members present were:
David Willey, Donna Larson, Anne Hiney, Brandi Lafleur and Frankie Delgado. Board Member
Benny Jones was absent.
Staff present was: Public Services Director, Mike Sferra; Parks Superintendent, Bill Nelson;
Assistant Parks Superintendent, Robert Diaz, Administrative Secretary for the City Secretary's
office, Gayle Walton and Board Secretary, Dionna Covington. Councilman Merrill Young was
also in attendance.
CITIZENS PARTICIPATION
Michelle Ketterman, who resides at 1200 Summerdale, addressed the board in reference to HOA
property that is near her residence. Ms. Ketterman asked the Board if the City of Wylie would
consider the prospect of making that particular area into a nature trail. It was noted by staff that
further discussion of this item could be placed on the agenda for the next Parks and Recreation
Board meeting.
BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Consider and act upon approving the Minutes from the May 21,2007 meeting.
Board Action
Board Secretary, Dionna Covington noted 2 corrections to the minutes; one of the corrections was
on page 4, last sentence to read "update" instead of"updated". Also the word "parcel" is to be
added on page 4, first sentence. Board Chairman Chesnut also noted a correction to the spelling
of his name.
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Board Member Willey made a motion and it was seconded by Board Member Hiney to
approve the Minutes of the May 21, 2007 Parks and Recreation Board Meeting with
corrections as noted. A vote was taken and passed 6-0 with Board Member Jones absent.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
2. Meet with Eric Pedersen, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Park Ranger-Lavon Lake,
regarding the use of Corps property for park purposes (i.e. trails).
Presentation
Mr. Pedersen, expressed to the Board that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is interested in
working with the Park Board and Collin County Open Space in potential trails, but there were
some concerns with potential trails in areas that were of interest. Mr. Pedersen explained that
these concerns were only to ensure the safety of the bikers and users of the trails. Some
concerns mentioned were:
• Not putting a trail on or near the dam, because of the dam being closed due to high risk for
terrorists and there are no future plans to re-open the dam to the public. However, if there
is a way to keep the trail off but in the vicinity of the dam, then this might be an option to
look at.
• If a trail was built through Avalon Park, that would be a problem because the park is a day
use fee facility, which means that there could be a potential problem with people getting
off the trail and using the park facilities without paying.
• East Fork Park and Marina Park have been experiencing some theft, and the question was
raised, "How would the campers and the hikers be separated if a trail would be added
through the park?"
• Every trail would need to have a controlled entry access and exit.
• Trails that were going to be put along the shoreline would need to be made with a material
that would stand up against being underwater. It was suggested that the material not be
concrete because concrete can crack and cause lots of maintenance. It was mentioned that
gravel would be a better material.
Staff/Board Discussion
Board Member Hiney asked what Mr. Pedersen would like to see as far as trails. Mr. Pedersen
stated that he would like to see multi-use trails for bike riders and mountain bikes because
motorized bikes are prohibited. Board Member Hiney also asked if someone could ride a bike
at Trinity Trail. Mr. Pedersen stated that Trinity Trail was not designed for bikers and
therefore no bikes are allowed. Board Member Willey asked if there is funding available from
the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. It was noted by Mr. Pedersen that funding is available, but
the City of Wylie will have to provide some of the cost as well. Board Member Willey stated
that he would love to see a trail connect from Garland to Sachse, from Sachse to Wylie and
a end up at the lake. Mr. Pedersen stated that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers would
recommend a trail through East Fork Park not Avalon Park; it was noted that there is not
enough space in Avalon Park.
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Break
Chairman Chesnut dismissed the meeting for a five minute break at 7:05pm.
Resume Meeting
Chairman Chesnut reconvened the meeting at 7:15pm.
3. Meet with representatives from Ha1ff and Associates Architects to discuss updates to
the Founders Park Bond project design.
Presentation
The Board first met with Half and Associates, Inc. on April 9, 2007 to discuss the Founders
Park Bond Project. At the April 9, 2007 meeting, the Board reviewed the three concepts that
Half and Associates presented. After review and discussion of the concepts, the Board made
its recommendations. The presentation today by Half and Associates constitutes revisions
based upon the recommendations of the Board on the proposed designs of the Founders Park
Bond Project. Francois deKock, Sr. Project Manager/Landscape Architect and Lenny Hughes,
Vice President/Director of Landscape Architect presented the revised proposed design to the
Board.
Some of the main points that they discussed were as follows:
• It was noted that Concepts A, B, C presented at the April 9, 2007 meeting addressed
the parking that would be installed around the ball fields; also there is a possibility to
establish a joint agreement with the Service Center for future parking.
• Mr. deKock discussed the document maps that the Board members had received which
included an illustration layout of the master plan project. Mr. deKock also discussed
what the Architects envisioned in the plan for Founders Park:
• Historical walk
• Shade structures
• Small trees inside the park with big trees surrounding them
• Dancing fountains within an area to be named "Founders Plaza" with
seating all around the fountain.
It was noted that the main points listed are an overview of what the architects recommend for
Founders Park, but because of the budget, only certain phases would be developed at a time. It
was also noted that the budget now has funding for the following items iu Phase 1;
• Ball Fields to the North
• Soccer Fields to the East
• Historical walkway
• Lighting for Fields and along walkway
• Trails
• 2 concession stands, and 2 restrooms
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• Traffic Island
• Texture, painting, and improvements
• Parking
Staff/Board Discussion
Board Member Hiney stated a concern she had on the materials that would be used on the
shade structures. Mr. deKock stated that they were pondering the idea of using concrete or
metal, but would like to explore options. Board Member Hiney stated that she liked the ideas
presented, but had concerns regarding the dancing fountain becoming a safety issue. Board
Member Delgado asked how the current water restrictions would be handled in regards to the
fountain. Mr. deKock responded that the fountain is designed to be its own reservoir.
Chairman Chesnut asked if instead of the dancing fountain, the area could be shaded with
tables and make it a gathering point. Mr. Hughes stated that shade was important and that
because the fountain would be the focal point of the Plaza, they would incorporate plenty of
shade structures around the fountain. Board Member Delgado asked about the restroom
facilities being portable instead of permanent. Robert Diaz replied that the plan was to
incorporate a permanent restroom facility and to expand those facilities with portable units for
tournaments. Chairman Chesnut asked if the trail by the east baseball fields,next to the tennis
courts will go all the way to FM 544. Board Member Hiney replied that it was not part of the
Bond project. Public Services Director Mike Sferra commented that this particularly piece of
land was not part of the City of Wylie. Board Member Larson asked if all of the landscaping
would be included in Phase 1. Mr. deKock stated that the landscaping would not be completed
in Phase 1 and that as more funding becomes available, more landscaping will be added.
Board Member Willey asked if the parking in Phase 1 would meet the needs of the City. Mr.
deKock replied that in Phase 1 there will be 400 spaces. Chairman Chesnut asked about
shared parking with the Service Center. Mr. deKock commented that it would not be available
in the 1st phase; it would be implemented later on.
Board Member Larson stated that she felt that the big issue is shade and asked if the structures
would have a top. Mr. deKock commented that the structures would have a top of some kind
to provide shade. Board Member Willey asked if shade is planned to be present at the soccer
fields. Mr. deKock commented that the plan doesn't show this, but this could easily be
implemented. Chairman Chesnut had a comment about the shade structure in Garland at their
softball fields; it was noted that the shade is connected from the concession down to the fields.
Mr. Hughes commented that it was a good idea, but it would depend on funding. Board
Member Hiney stated that people really want shade on the fields. Board Member Delgado
replied that it would not be feasible to put shade on the fields.
Board Member Delgado asked if the cost of bigger trees was significantly more. Mr. Nelson
stated that the cost was more, in that bigger trees are more expensive and that the minimum
size on the trees would be 2 inches. Mr. Nelson also stated he would like to have the tree sizes
3 or 4 inches, depending on the price. Board Member Hiney noted that it would be 10 years or
more before the trees were big enough to provide shade. Mr. Nelson commented that smaller
trees are better at settling in and that anything over 4 inches would be a diminishing return and
harder to establish. Board Member Larson asked Mr. Nelson if there are some faster growing
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trees. It was noted by Mr. Nelson that there are faster growing trees, but that most of those
were Mulberry and Cottonwood, which are not desired trees. Mr. Diaz commented that to
give the board an idea on tree growth in other parks, the trees in Community Park are 25 years
old.
Chairman Chesnut asked if this project will need to go to Council. Mike Sferra commented
that the next step was to work with staff and define a project that is within budget, and then it
will be presented to the Park Board to review before going to the City Council. Board
Member Delgado commented that he wants to see the final review of the project and the
phases broken down.
4. Park Acquisition and Improvement Fund status.
Staff/Board Discussion
Mike Sferra addressed the Board regarding the Park Acquisition and Improvement fund.
Board Member Hiney asked if the Skate Park was reflected in the figures. Mike Sferra replied
that the figures include the Skate Park. Chairman Chesnut asked about the grant on land of
Olde City Park. Mr. Sferra commented that the City Council will have an executive session on
this topic. Board Member Hiney asked if there will be any extra funds available next fiscal
year. It was noted by Mr. Sferra that at the end of this fiscal year we will have $271,000 and
that$16,000 of that is budgeted for practice fields and soccer goals. It was also noted that next
fiscal year, reserve funding should be $255,000 for grants. Mr. Sferra continued speaking �m..
about the fund and that additional funds will be available over the next 10 or 12 months, due to
new development. Board Member Delgado commented about the new development, Alanis
Crossing, and money owed for Parkland Fees. Mr. Sferra stated that they would have to pay
the fees before they could be issued any building permits. Chairman Chesnut asked if the
duplexes on Masters and Kirby Street would bring funding for the budget. It was noted by Mr.
Sferra that those lots were individual lots and no replats were needed; the lots already existed.
Board Member Hiney suggested looking into the Parkland Fees ordinance to see what was said
about lots going from single dwelling to multi-dwelling.
5. Collin County Parks and Open Space Grants: Founders Park Property and New
grant application
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Sferra addressed the 3 parcel applications for southern boundaries of Olde City Park.
They are Collin County, Tara Selene Caldwell, and Kansas City Southern Railroad. It was
noted that the City is considering to apply for an application for approximately 1 '/2 acres with
the Collin County Parks and Open Space Grant. Mr.Nelson explained that the Board has been
given a diagram picture illustrating what is to be accomplished.
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6. Staff updates:
• Safe Routes to School Grant
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Sferra addressed the Safe Routes to School Grant in that the grant cleared the local Texas
Department of Transportation (TxDOT) office and is on its way to Austin. Mr. Sferra also
stated that we would not know the status of the grant until September or October. It was also
noted that the grant was 100%reimbursable. Board Member Hiney asked about the size of the
sidewalks and on the diagram provided, it was North of Park Blvd. Mr. Sferra replied that
those sidewalks were eight (8) feet wide. Board Member Hiney stated, if this grant is
awarded,maybe we could ask for a mid-year budget amendment.
• Update on Recreation Park and Open Space Plan
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Sferra explained that this budget item was to be submitted for approval by council for the
next fiscal year, and it includes a city wide update and a master plan for the Wells property. It
was noted that staff will be meeting with the City Manager to discuss the proposed budget.
Board Member Hiney asked when the budget hearing would be held. It was noted that the
2007-2008 Budget is up for review, and had to be approved in September. ..
• Hospital Property on Hwy 78
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Sferra noted that this topic was never really an item on the table; it was just being
discussed at Staff's level. Chairman Chesnut commented that Sam Satterwhite had mentioned
at one of the Board meetings about possibly purchasing the property. Mr. Sferra stated that
the building would have to be completely remodeled and the City was not interested in buying
the property.
• Financial Update on Recreation Center and City Facilities
Staff/Board Discussion
Mr. Sferra stated the architects for the new facilities, ARCHITEXAS, provided a spreadsheet
for the Board to review. It was noted that staff could not answer questions in regards to the
spreadsheet but could review the current deficit amount. Board Member Willey asked what
had Council decided on this topic. Councilman Merrill Young addressed the Board and stated
that when Council considered doing all of the projects at the same time, this reflected an
increase in taxes of 14 cents; but upon further review, it was discovered that this was going to
be a wash. Mr. Young also noted that if Council did not push forward, as opposed to waiting
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to build all of the facilities at different times, it would cost more in the long run. Chairman
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Chesnut asked when they plan on digging. Mr. Sferra commented that the completion is
anticipated for Mid. 2010. Chairman Chesnut asked about the Founders Park and when that
would be started. Mr. Sferra noted late fall, November 2007, and would be finished late
summer of 2008. It was also noted that because of the new installation of grass, no one would
be allowed to play on the fields for a least a year. Mr. Nelson explained that because the grass
will be Bermuda, it needed all of 2009 to grow. However, the existing fields are okay to use;
the new fields would not be utilized for that timeframe.
Board Member Delgado asked if consideration of meeting every two weeks as opposed to once
per month should be placed on the agenda for the next Board meeting. Board Member
Delgado stated it would be essential to meet and discuss items going on with the Parks more
often than just once every month. He also requested future discussion regarding the recent
retreat the board held and the items that were discussed. He explained that he would like the
board to go over those topics again.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Board Member Willey and seconded by Board Member Delgado to
adjourn. The consensus of the Board was to adjourn. The Board adjourned at 8:48 pm.
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Dan Chesnut, airman
ATTEST:
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Dionna Covington, Secre y
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