08-09-1988 (City Council) Minutes 84
CITY COUNCIL MEETING ...�
MINUTES
AUGUST 9, 1988
The City of Wylie City Council met in regular session on
Tuesday, August 9, 1988 at 7 :00 P.M. in the Council Chambers
of the Municipal Complex . A quorum was present and notice
of the meeting had been posted in the time and manner
required by law. Those present were Mayor Chuck Trimble,
Council Members Jim Swartz , Bud Naish, Ortie Messenger and
Chris DiTota, City Manager John Pitstick, City Secretary
Carolyn Jones, Finance Director James Johnson, Code
Enforcement Officer Roy Faires, Assist. Engineer Ron
Homeyer, Public Works Superintendent Don White, Chief of
Police Royce Abbott and City Attorney Robert Dillard. Mayor
Pro Tem John Akin and Councilman Marvin Blakey were absent .
Mayor Trimble called the meeting to order and Councilman
Messenger gave the invocation.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes being submitted were for
the July 12th, July 26th Council meetings and the July 14th
joint meeting with the Planning and Zoning Board, and the -^*
July 25th joint meeting with the Library Board. There being
no corrections or additions to the minutes , a motion was
made by Councilman DiTota to approve as submitted . Seconded
by Councilman Messenger. The vote was as follows: Mayor
Trimble - in favor, Councilman Swartz - in favor, Councilman
DiTota - in favor, Councilman Messenger - in favor , and
Councilman Naish - in favor. This motion carried with all
in favor.
PRESENTATION BY MRS. CATHERINE FREY: Mrs. Frey was
requesting from the Council that her water rates be the same
as those who live within the City Limits. Mrs. Frey gave
the Council a fact sheet which has been made a part of the
City records , giving reasons why her water rate should not
be the outside city rates. In this fact sheet Mrs . Frey
states she was without water some six weeks and yet was
receiving and paying a water bill during this time. After a
lot of excuses and problems , she stated she was finally
connected to the new 14" line with a promise her water bill
would remain the same. Councilman Naish wanted to know why
she was without water and yet received a bill from the City.
Mr . Don White said there was disruption of services through
some of the construction, until Mrs . Frey came into town, we
were not aware her line had not been connected to this new
line. Mr . White said she was given temporary service when
we were made aware of her being without water. Mr. White
said he did not know it was six weeks that she was without
water. Mrs. Frey said she resisted going on the new line,
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as the old 2" line was enough for her. Mrs. Frey said she
would not have brought this up but the water bill is so much
higher than before. Councilman DiTota wanted to know at
what point and time Mrs . Frey noticed the rates had gone up
over what the city rates had been. Mrs . Frey said she did
not notice when they changed. Mr. Johnson, Finance
Director, said he discovered it in reviewing the rate study
that there were a number of customers that were outside the
City and should be paying higher rates. Mrs . Frey said
there were a group of people who used this 2" water line for
as long as it has been there. Councilman Swartz asked if
they had a well prior to connecting on to this water line.
Mrs. Frey said her father made a contribution to the system
and then asked the City if he could run a 2" line from the
City to our property. Mayor Trimble ask the City Attorney
what the controlling law was in this. Mr. Dillard said it
would be private line except where it was in the easement or
R-O-W. Mr. Dillard said he did not understand the point , as
she was on the 14" line now and if the 2" water was in the
public R-O-W and the City has maintained it , then it would
be the City' s line. Councilman Messenger said the staff
report said there were pressure problems and the line was
outdated , and it should be replaced . Mrs . Frey said she
understood except she did not want to pay the extra and she
wanted to go along with what she had. Councilman Naish said
that staff was looking at annexing your property and then
you will get city rates. Mrs. Frey said her problem is
there is a 65 year old agreement . This was a good jester
for inside City rates and the City use our land for
discarding of tin cans on our property. Councilman Ditota
ask when it was closed . Mrs. Frey said approximately in the
late 50 ' or early 60 ' s . Councilman Naish said we are in the
process of having the people outside the City help off set
the expense of getting water there, if we let you get water
for inside rates, then we are not being fair to the others
outside the city. Mrs . Frey said she understood but has any
other citizen provided contributions like this for the City.
Councilman Naish said I do not know but I would like to
thank we are all doing and working for the City. Councilman
Swartz said your father has done something good, but we
cannot use that because others would come up with the same
type of request. City Manager John Pitstick said since
the time has passed , the amortization for that line is up
and been well paid for and should level out since we have
the new line, we went in accordance with our Ordinance.
Mrs . Frey said her parents were always working for the City.
Mayor Trimble said apparently it was an accident of not
being charged properly. Mrs. Frey said she would like for
the City to take care of the materials that have been put
there. This would have never been brought about if the
rates had not been changed .
APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE ALTERING THE PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMITS
ON FM 544 : Mr. Ron Homeyer , Assist. Engineer, stated this
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was coming forth from the Texas Highway Department, after
his request for a survey and traffic study in this area.
The Highway Department is requesting the speed limit be
reduced to 50 MPH from FM 1378 to Hooper Road. Motion was
made by Councilman Naish to approve the speed limit
ordinance reducing the speed from 55 MPH to 50 MPH on FM 544
from FM1378 to Hooper Road . Seconded by Councilman DiTota.
The vote was as follows : Mayor Trimble - in favor,
Councilman Swartz - in favor, Councilman DiTota - in favor,
Councilman Messenger - in favor, and Councilman Naish - in
favor . This motion carried with all in favor.
AWARD OF BID FOR 2" OVERLAY FOR BALLAD STREET FROM STONE RD.
TO 1600 S. BALLARD AND CALLIE COURT : Mr. Ron Homeyer,
Assist. Engineer, stated this recommendation is for the
entire project for S. Ballard and Callie Court. The reason
for this coming forth now, is due to the bid received being
good for 90 days and the time is up today. Staff is
recommending going with the bid from XIT in the amount of
$70 ,300 .00 . We will bring it back for approval of payment
as each section is done. Motion was made by Councilman
DiTota to award the bid for the 2" overlay for Ballard
Street and Callie Court to XIT Paving. Seconded by
Councilman Messenger. The vote was as follows : Mayor
Trimble - in favor, Councilman Swartz - in favor, Councilman
DiTota - in favor, Councilman Messenger - in favor, and
Councilman Naish - in favor. This motion carried with all
in favor.
AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO OFFER BID FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
EQUIPMENT (BOAT) : Craig Swaner reported that at the present
time the fire department members are using their own
vehicles to transport themselves and equipment to fires .
If this support vehicle could be purchased, it would
transport the firemen to the fire, carry equipment that is
having to be loaded each time there is a fire. If this
vehicles had all the equipment already on it , it would save
time in getting to a fire. The vehicle needs to be able to
carry a cascade system and then we can refill our air
bottles on the scene and not have to send one of the fireman
back to the building to refill bottles . The power generator
would also be on this vehicle, this is used at night for
giving us proper light. At present this is not carried, and
if needed someone takes their personal vehicle back to the
building and picks it up. Councilman Messenger said there
is $16,000 .00 shown for this item. Mr . Swaner said the
vehicle will be approximately $12,000 .00 and then $800.00 to
$1200 .00 for a tool box . Councilman Naish wanted to know if
the fire department has given consideration to a used
vehicle. Mr . Swaner said yes. Mayor Trimble said there is -�
a vehicle at First State Bank that is low mileage and we
should go look at it. Mayor Trimble also stated he is in
support of the vehicle, but not sold on the boat . Mr.
Swaner said the main use of the boat is for water rescue.
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That is the reason the boat we have now was purchased.
Anytime there is a drowning we are called out , we average
about two or three times a year being called out . City
Manager John Pitstick said he has a concern for the fire
department even with a new boat for the problems of safety.
Councilman Naish said what we have now we should not put
anyone in and put it on the lake. There is no room for
working with people once we get to them. I think we should
submit a bid . We have annexed the land. Councilman
Messenger said we should offer a bid . Councilman DiTota
said if we submit a bid an do not get it, then do we have to
go out for $14 ,00Q to $20,000 . boat. City Manager John
Pitstick said that Mr. Larry Allen told him there were not
many bids turned in. Councilman DiTota said he did not want
the City to be abused. Everyone will say, Wylie has a boat,
let them go out. Councilman Naish said it could be a joint
effort , with police and fire. Councilman Naish suggested
to bid on this boat and if it does not go through we come
back and start again. City Manager John Pitstick said the
Corp has a good boat and yet they depend on us now, if we
get this boat they will really depend on us . City Manager
John Pitstick said the minimum bid was $6 ,500 .00.
Councilman Naish said they are asking $7 ,000 .00 Mr.
Johnson, Finance Director, said Council could flip this
around and request bids for boat and let Plano submit us a
bid . Mayor Trimble said he was willing to go $6 ,500 .00.
Councilman Messenger said not $7 ,000.00 . Mayor Trimble said
lets see what this brings us . City Manager John Pitstick
said bids will be sought from other cities .
Motion was made by Councilman Naish to submit a bid of
$6,600 .00 to Plano for the boat . Seconded by Councilman
Messenger. City Attorney, Mr . Dillard said that the City
has to advertise in the paper for a boat as it is over the
$5,000 .00 and they can not submit a bid . There was no vote
called for this motion.
APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULE A OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
CONTRACT: Motion was made by Councilman Messenger to change
Schedule A of the Public Safety Contract (General Obligation
Equipment Notes 1988) to include purchase of a boat and
support vehicle. Seconded by Councilman Naish. The vote
was as follows : Mayor Trimble - in favor, Councilman Swartz
- in favor, Councilman DiTota - in favor, Councilman
Messenger - in favor, and Councilman Naish - in favor. This
motion carried with all in favor.
Mr . Swaner said the fund raiser the fire department had
raised $2 ,500 .00 and this was going for training. The fire
department purchased a VCR and TV for training purposes .
APPROVAL OF PAYMENT OF CUMMINGS AND PEWITT ENGINEERING FIRM
FOR STREET CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $39 ,635.00 :
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Councilman Messenger wanted to know if this amount was for --�.
the entire project . Mr. Homeyer, Assist. Engineer, said
there would be a few other charges, but this was the biggest
part of the project. Councilman DiTota said there is a
penalty for late fees and wanted to know if this was going
to affect us . Mr. Homeyer said no. Motion was made by
Councilman DiTota to approve the invoice paying Cummings and
Pewitt Engineering Firm for the street construction program
in the amount of $39,635.00 . Seconded by Councilman Swartz .
The vote was as follows : Mayor Trimble - in favor,
Councilman Swartz - in favor, Councilman DiTota - in favor,
Councilman Messenger - in favor, and Councilman Naish - in
favor. This motion carried with all in favor.
AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO SALE THROUGH SEALED BIDS THE OLD
WATER TOWER BEHIND THE OLD POLICE STATION: Motion was made
by Councilman DiTota to grant authorization for staff to
seek bids on the old water tower behind the old police
station, with bids covering any liability expense. Seconded
by Councilman Naish. The vote was as follows : Mayor
Trimble - in favor, Councilman Swartz - in favor, Councilman
DiTota - in favor, Councilman Messenger - in favor, and
Councilman Naish - in favor. This motion carried with all
in favor.
APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR A SEWER TAP AT PRESIDENTIAL
ESTATES SEWER LINE FOR ONE LOT IN LAKE RANCH ESTATES: Mr.
Ron Homeyer feels with current building rate in Presidential
Estates , we can handle this and sewer should be in by the
time of build out . Councilman DiTota wanted to know what
other alternatives . Mr. Homeyer said septic system. Mr.
Homeyer said this is in Lake Ranch Estates and is in the
city limits. Mayor Trimble said when we annexed them in,
the City committed to provide services from the City. They
may contribute to some of the cost but the City has to pay
some also . City Manager John Pitstick said we will have to
put a line up there for Presidential Estates and Newport
Harbour . Councilman DiTota said you are going to have some
patch jobs , some septic, and some sewer . We will inherit
these someday. Mayor Trimble said I was not saying patch
jobs , but we have to do Presidential and Newport Harbour and
I would not oppose some other developers helping put this
line in. Councilman Naish said one of the reason we have
Presidential and Newport Harbour was it happened during the
booming years and we felt that prior to build out we would
have grown to the area. I do not think we can go on any
estimates, I think we have to look at it now. City Manager
John Pitstick said this was brought forward because staff
does not see us on complete build out prior to the force
main being put in. —
Mr . Kent Crane is the builder for this property. Mr. Crane
said this is on lot three, and when Presidential Estates was
built , it was discussed about bringing the west road and the
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sewer line up to Lake Ranch Estates. This road dead ends
now. This property we are asking for sewer to is where the
barricade is and where the sewer line stops. This is not an
easement, this property is the only one involved and they
are at the joining point of Presidential Estates .
Councilman DiTota wanted to know how many lots in Lake Ranch
Estates. Mr . Crane said there are 12 lots, 2 lots are built
on and occupied. Mr . Roy Faires said this is an old sub-
division . Councilman DiTota said his concern is that this
sub-division was built for septic systems, and what stops
the other property owners from wanting to do the same thing.
Councilman DiTota said why sewer and not septic system. Mr .
Crane said you will run into problems such as wet weather
and this causes sewer to rise up. The cost is about the
same on septic system and sewer . Councilman Swartz said
he does not see where one house will make a difference.
Mayor Trimble said you have to look at being fair, as if all
12 lots were asking to come on line. Mr . Crane said 12
houses would not make it go to another size line. Mr.
Homeyer said no extra M & 0 on the force main system, you
would have to put in a larger pump motor . Mayor Trimble
said we have to give sewer within 2 1/2 years, and we are
almost there. I believe it has to be offered to all 12 lots
and they have to pay from where we stop the line to their
property. Mr. Homeyer said he would want the easement .
Motion was made by Councilman Swartz to approve the sewer
tap for all 12 lots in Lake Ranch Estates with an easement
and fees. Seconded by Councilman Messenger. The vote was
as follows : Mayor Trimble - in favor, Councilman Swartz -
in favor, Councilman DiTota - against, Councilman Messenger
- in favor , and Councilman Naish - against. This motion
does not carry, there were three in favor, and two against .
In accordance with the City Charter, there must be four in
favor of a motion in order for it to carry.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION: Mayor Trimble invited anyone wishing
to address the Council to come forward at this time. Please
state your name and address for the record and try to hold
your comments to within two minutes. There were no citizens
wishing to speak at this time.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION: Councilman Naish said there was a
meeting on Thursday at 7 P. M. on the budget and we urge all
the citizens to come out . Also, has the Highway Department
responded to patrolling Hwy. 78 . Chief Abbott said they
have told me they were out on Hwy. 78 already.
Councilman Messenger how are things going with the new
temporary Library Director? City Manager John Pitstick said
just fine, met with the Board last night and she will be
here for about six weeks . Councilman Messenger wanted to
know if she was doing re-training . City Manager John
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Pitstick said she is making a lot of changes. Councilman
Messenger wanted to know if she was re-training the Library
Aide. City Manager John Pitstick said yes .
Councilman DiTota wanted to know if the City Manager could
prepare a sheet that would compare tax rates and water rates
with other cities around us for Thursday night' s meeting.
Mayor Trimble said there was an all day work shop on the
budget and I believe we gained some ground. City Manager
John Pitstick said this is a work session on Thursday, we
have not set the public hearing date yet.
There being no other matters of discussion, a motion was
made to adjourn with all in favor.
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